PTAS 19: Oh, How the Mighty Have Fallen

Master WGS · **Joined:** Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:12 pm **Posts:** 2830

IMPORTANT NOTE: DarkBomberKid helped write this episode too. I was going to put his name on the opening credit, but Vegas destroyed my original project file. Sorry for not giving you due credit, buddy.

1KidsEntertainment · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:57 am

I only laughed once, I found that the jokes in the entire episode (except for the last one, which was amazing) were paced differently than your usual style, not to mention that I don't think they were all that strong.

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I can't say that I'm all that pleased, though, to see the script style change so quickly. I really enjoy classic PTAS scripting.

To be a bit more specific, I found that the jokes were too rapid paced and obscure. Sure, PTAS has always had obscure jokes in it.... but there are usually other jokes too.

Or maybe I'm the only one who noticed a difference.

Master WGS · **Joined:** Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:12 pm **Posts:** 2830

To be fair, it probably is paced faster, and here's the reason:

After doing a couple cons, and showing our videos, one thing always stuck out: The amount of time people weren't laughing, and there was just awkward silence in the room. I seek to alleviate that, which is really only made possible by the machine-gunning of jokes.

However, pacing is really important. I was pushed to the limit with the deadline, so some of it was probably rushed. I was really excited to After the extremely long and unfortunate wait kill Butterfree, though, so that's also a likely factor.

1KidsEntertainment · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:08 am

Master WGS wrote:

To be fair, it probably is paced faster, and here's the reason:

After doing a couple cons, and showing our videos, one thing always stuck out: The amount of time people weren't laughing, and there was just awkward silence in the room. I seek to alleviate that, which is really only made possible by the machine-gunning of jokes.

However, pacing is really important. I was pushed to the limit with the deadline, so some of it was probably rushed. I was really excited to After the extremely long and unfortunate wait kill Butterfree, though, so that's also a likely factor.

See, the thing is, not laughing doesn't mean that the silence was awkward. I rarely ever watch ANYTHING and laugh all the way through. You're aiming waaaaaaaay too high.

Machine gunning jokes: great. Machine gunning jokes at 10x the speed: not great.

I generally find the most successful jokes in my own content are the ones that are paced every other line. One joke line, one setup, one punch line, one obscure joke, then a punch line.

The only time silence from your viewers is bad: when they're silent the entire time, or for most of the time. Or during a pause where they're supposed to be laughing.

Xerostyle · **Joined:** Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:41 pm **Posts:** 2359

1kids never makes anyone laugh.

And now he hates on the lulz.

LordMoonstone · **Joined:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:46 am **Posts:** 149

Best episode.

It was never not funny at any point in time and thus relished in always being funny. Screw buildup, why not have an assault on your funnybone until it's broken. IMO.

I can respect the sentiment of setup, since it makes certain elements more poignant, but I was laughing the whole way.

Xerostyle wrote:

1kids never makes anyone laugh.

He makes me laugh, especially his latest episode.. but I like everything so my opinion doesn't matter

1KidsEntertainment · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:15 am

Xerostyle wrote:

1kids never makes me laugh.

Fixed.

Call it what it is. I understand you just don't like my scripting. That's your opinion. I'm giving mine.

Master WGS · **Joined:** Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:12 pm **Posts:** 2830

lolol at the butt-hurt.

Anyways, I can see both sides of this argument, as I'm a pretty big fan of the good setup. I guess this episode just didn't lend itself to it, or Champion, DarkBomberKid and I weren't in a 'set up' mood when we scripted.

Either way, hope the times that made you laugh were worth the times you weren't. : /

FTEcho 4 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:38 am

Hmm. It was good, but it needed more Dragonforce. Five songs wasn't quite enough. That being said, thank you for returning to form after the hellish WTF that episode eighteen was.

Mighty Butterfree forever! You need T-Shirts. And also, a SEX POACHERS! T-shirt. Seriously. MAKE THEM NOW! DO IT NOW! NAO!!!! Ok I'm done.

Also, you killed him. You KILLED the Mighty Butterfree. What the hell was wrong with you people? Wasn't it enough to get rid of him? Have you no hearts? I always thought that you were the heroes of our time, but now you killed the warrior inside PTAS that made it awesome. I feel like I just received an ultra beatdown, and I have no reasons to live. I'm undergoing body breakdown in the fields of despair. My mind walks a trail of broken hearts on the last journey home, and my flame of youth has been extinguished. But though I die, my spirit will go on to haunt you, Box of Danger. This atrocity will not stand. Prepare for war.

That was way harder than i expected it to be.

Great episode! I'm confused as to why you set a due date, but at least you sticked to it admirably. Machinegunning jokes definitely worked out really well. Continue with the awesome. Bravo, TeamFourStar. Bravo.

I AM JAMES FEAR ME.

Master WGS · **Joined:** Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:12 pm **Posts:** 2830

FTEcho 4 wrote:

Also, you killed him. You KILLED the Mighty Butterfree. What the hell was wrong with you people? Wasn't it enough to get rid of him? Have you no hearts? I always thought that you were the heroes of our time, but now you killed the warrior inside PTAS that made it awesome. I feel like I just received an ultra beatdown, and I have no reasons to live. I'm undergoing body breakdown in the fields of despair. My mind walks a trail of broken hearts on the last journey home, and my flame of youth has been extinguished. But though I die, my spirit will go on to haunt you, Box of Danger. This atrocity will not stand. Prepare for war.

I get it.

Wa-cha · **Joined:** Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:48 pm **Posts:** 185

Eh, killing him was mild to me (kinda like vomiting 3 times then, oh he exploded).

Then again, I wasn't much of a butterfree fan anyway.

Paradox295 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:46 am **Posts:** 472

You managed to ruin people's childhoods worse than Rule 34, congrats!

TauVertex · **Joined:** Thu May 20, 2010 10:18 am **Posts:** 53

A 3-second intro. I love you.

Pretty good episode and great sendoff for Butterfree. Lots of great moments throughout. While definitely faster than usual, the pacing worked pretty well for me overall. However, going for nearly two minutes without a single joke was way too long. I understand what you were doing, and the buildup paid off quite nicely in the end, but it just felt like too much.

But still, well done, sirs. The Mighty Butterfree will be missed.

Kwenspi · **Joined:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:50 am **Posts:** 4

I thought it sucked that they removed Butterfree from the series, not you guys, the creators of Pokémon. You guys gave Butterfree some decent respect in his departure, and for that, you will always be heros in my mind.
If that was in any way cheesy, please tell me.

CountAbyss · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:05 am

I greatly enjoy this episode, while I do notice it's quite different from previous episodes due to the pacing I feel the writing for this episode was suited for this for the most part.

While some jokes could've pulled off better with a slower pace I feel it was a success and at least you slowed down the pace for the most important joke of them all. Which, by the way, is still hilarious even though I knew this was coming MANY MANY months ago!

This also had some of THE best Butterfree jokes and went kinda beyond the one-trick pony you set him up to be.

Bravo

1KidsEntertainment · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:14 am

CountAbyss wrote:

went kinda beyond the one-trick pony you set him up to be.

This is quite true.

EvannaM · **Joined:** Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:11 pm **Posts:** 9

The Optimus Prime joke made me laugh for a good few minutes

Zazusha · **Joined:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:01 am **Posts:** 52

Episode overall was okay. i liked the lines right before the quick OP, made me giggle. dunno what to say bout the bulk of the episode. Lots of yelling, but few if any topping out. Glad u ended it the way you did, tho i kinda knew you'd end it like that for like ever. 4/5.

NoOBiE77 · **Joined:** Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:13 pm **Posts:** 3

Biggest. Cock-Block. Ever.

Great episode though.

Rude · **Joined:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:22 am **Posts:** 411

Everything seemed to have the Champion touch. Having said that, I didn't laugh except at Meowth and butt-butt. I feel like I'm listening to myself tell other people's jokes.

awesome or FTW · **Joined:** Sat May 22, 2010 12:08 am **Posts:** 3

I agree at some point with 1kids.The jokes were a little bit fast. I'm not american so it took me some time to understand some jokes ,but the episode was great anyways

JoJoRockets52 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:47 pm

shedininja001 wrote:

As a Pokémon myself, I think its fine. I stoped watching the real Pokémon when Misty left. I was disaponted she and Ash never got together. For this show, in my view - funny is good but this is kinda a serous episode. The end bit i was like "oh no!" but whatever i like it.

I guess I'm the only one who read this...

FTEcho 4 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:00 pm

Question for the people with the stuff and things: Are you working on getting an iTunes feed set up? Because I kind of need a portable version of this, mostly so I can scream "Sex Poachers!" at people and show them how awesome Mighty Butterfree is (I mean, was... bastards.)

Oh, I forgot to mention earlier how awesome it was that you managed to cram the four album titles into two sentences and keep it coherent and awesome. I didn't forget to tell you that you suck for killing Butterfree, but it bears repeating, because you suck for killing Butterfree. A LOT.

Roooster · **Posted:** Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:03 pm

JoJoRockets52 wrote:

shedininja001 wrote:

As a Pokémon myself, I think its fine. I stoped watching the real Pokémon when Misty left. I was disaponted she and Ash never got together. For this show, in my view - funny is good but this is kinda a serous episode. The end bit i was like "oh no!" but whatever i like it.

I guess I'm the only one who read this...

No, you're not. I wrote something really mean at first, then I decided that it was perhaps too mean, so I deleted it.

Anyway, I lol'd at the episode. Eddie did a great job with his lines... and I find it depressing at how much I'm laughing at the terrible line of "Nothing but net!" All in all, good work.

ClassyDesk · **Joined:** Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:56 pm **Posts:** 75

Sex Poachers!!!! One of the funniest episodes yet. A definite step up from 16 and 17.

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